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Post by steve on Oct 3, 2014 12:27:01 GMT -7
re: Masters Sounds like your not a fan of his work in real life. I'm not sure if your aware but he's actually a good worker for a guy of his size and build, and for sure has another WWE run in him should they ever come calling. Towards the end of his WWE run he was producing strong matches on the secondary programing and was the most improved worker and was one of the best workers at the time. His recent work has been strong too. Check out Chris Masters in PCW (Preston City Wrestling) he has had absolute belters and crackers with Kris Travis and others! He travels alot also and get's around the Indys winning Heavyweight Titles in a few different places. one of his matches vs Kris Travis bleacherreport.com/articles/2101187-examining-chris-masters-post-wwe-pro-wrestling-career - good write up of Masters post WWE career (sounds alot like the travelling schedule of an NWA World Champion
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Post by steve on Oct 3, 2014 12:39:51 GMT -7
Re: Gaydar Initially I had them down as created wrestlers. But then I decided to move away from created characters and decided to make the call that Rene Dupree had been playing the role of "'Rock Hard' Dick Ryder" all along alongside Danny Hope who plays "Jeffery Flockhart". I just played it like some wrestlers sometimes wrestle as one gimmick in one region, and another gimmick in another. e.g Christopher Daniels in the states and "Curry Man" in Japan. Ryder wasn't masked but it has never been ackowledged as being Rene Dupree by the commentators or anything before or since. Dupree slightly alters his appreance and attire when playing Ryder. I did bring this to attention though slightly on a previous show when the fans started chanting "Rene, Rene, Rene" at one point once Gaydar become more of a focus. By the way Danny Hope, who plays Flockhart, is a real hoot of a wrestler and gimmick in real life. He plays a proper camp wrestler called 'Delicious' Danny Hope and seemed like a good fit for Flockhart. - Mad Man Manson & Danny Hope learn burlesque www.prestoncitywrestling.com/wrestlers/danny-hopewww.prestoncitywrestling.com/shop/merchandise/danny-hope-tshirt - all tassel - no hassle! PS check out the WCPW roster page for a full bio of both Dick Ryder and Jeffery Flockhart with a bit of back story.
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Post by jp1985 on Oct 3, 2014 12:52:11 GMT -7
Yeah, my bad. I added a not in there by accident. I meant it seems way too specific to be an off the cuff remark. Hopefully Daniel Bryan even has the belt after Fall Brawl lol.
As for Mysterio-Kofi, I've taken all that out of it. Like I said I like the feud. The part I meant by backwards is that you threw out the idea of the hair vs mask match, and now you've began building towards it. Like if you had never mentioned the gimmick once and then suggested it after this segment, it makes a lot more sense to me. Still a good feud though and now that the gimmick has been adequately built in the storyline instead of being mentioned, it should make the rest go by without that issue.
It's not that I'm not a fan of Masters in real life, it's just he is what he is. He's passable, sure, good for his size, sure, but a lot of guys are and it's not so much a guy's skills vs relativity to what else is out there and there's far better overall packages left and right than him as a babyface. Heel I think he has a much more natural feel in real life as he comes across with a natural arrogance to himself. It's not just the ring too, he also always came across rather clumsy on the mic, lacked charisma, and as a face with a posing routine, I just don't see a building of 10,000 people popping for it. Booing the arrogant posing routine, sure. It's a testament to your writing and booking because in real life, the guy just would never get this far. He can be a regional champion any day when it's a show a month where even guys like Mason Ryan get big pops as it's just as much "I recognize you from TV" as anything else. And that's sort of what's going on in Preston City Wrestling, hence why they pay Americans so much to come over. They get that "I recognize you from TV" style reaction and attract a more casual fan. Main eventing a national PPV on the other hand as a face in real life in 2014 to draw say 100,000 domestic buys weighed against the other options promoters have instead of him, I just don't see it. Like I said though, that's the real man.
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Post by steve on Oct 3, 2014 15:13:00 GMT -7
You have some valid points.
Masters is a face though in PCW, and is a regular roster member. He's at every show. Granted it is monthly shows not weekly (they have supershow events, with 4 events over 3 days over the weekend - he's on them all) and he's over like rover as a face. He shows lots of charisma in this albeit intimate atmosphere (nightclub of 1,000+ paying people) and shows good babyface fire. Mike skills are not world class but he's good enough and just ozes star power (more so than other US exports I've seen).
I think with the right push he could be a upper echelon player in WWE right now. Not THE MAN or anything but he could defo be IC/US and occasional Main-event shots. I just see under-utilised potential in him and maybe we will never know if in real life, with the right booking (hide the negatives/push the positives) if he could be a PPV player - but then again he did have a top draw PPV match with Shawn Michaels once when he was still green. I think it's feesable he would be good enough in a WWE-less world that we operate in (WWE average circa~200k buys for smaller shows) that if promoted right he could headline a 100K buy show.
Yeah the Kofi-Rey thing I made a bit of a mistake there and am making up for it now. But in this story Rey already knew what and how he wanted to prove himself - and he made the challenge, and has now explained why.
Cheers for comments!!
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